It's Still a Bl**dy Shambles...........

Willum

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I didn’t mean to imply that all self builds do not have on-board facilities, many do, but many do not. At the end of the day, you do what you have to do. There are a lot who are going down the route of composting toilets and this could be quite practical. I think the advent of the Chemical cassette type loos was primarily for the holiday tourers who tend to stay on campsites or use Aires where there are facilities for servicing on-board facilities.
I've seen a lot of folk who make use of empty plastic bottles and I remember a book - 'Go Motorhoming', if I remember correctly - that had some quite novel ways of dealing with the remainder of the leavings. No more details, it's Sunday morning and I haven't had my breakfast yet. We long ago converted our cassettes to bio washing liquid and a SOG. It means we're tied to disposal points at some stage but can usually manage 5 days without difficulty.
Again, on the brighter side:
The restrictions have eased to the extent where we can go collect the missing family member. :thumb: We've just booked two flights to Malaga! Much as I expected, the campsite have just published their prices and it's up to €30 per day for July. They haven't said they will up our storage fee to that but I'll be (pleasantly) surprised if they don't. The only choice to be made now is the route back. Giving ourselves a bit of time to make sure all is OK with the old girl, the ferries from northern Spain are running at about £450 plus the cost of a cabin. It might well be a slog through France in late July before it all goes mad in August.
Will
Edit: Chris: your post popped onto my screen as soon as I push the 'post reply' button. Looks like it's official!
 

Nomadic

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I've seen a lot of folk who make use of empty plastic bottles and I remember a book - 'Go Motorhoming', if I remember correctly - that had some quite novel ways of dealing with the remainder of the leavings. No more details, it's Sunday morning and I haven't had my breakfast yet. We long ago converted our cassettes to bio washing liquid and a SOG. It means we're tied to disposal points at some stage but can usually manage 5 days without difficulty.
Again, on the brighter side:
The restrictions have eased to the extent where we can go collect the missing family member. :thumb: We've just booked two flights to Malaga! Much as I expected, the campsite have just published their prices and it's up to €30 per day for July. They haven't said they will up our storage fee to that but I'll be (pleasantly) surprised if they don't. The only choice to be made now is the route back. Giving ourselves a bit of time to make sure all is OK with the old girl, the ferries from northern Spain are running at about £450 plus the cost of a cabin. It might well be a slog through France in late July before it all goes mad in August.
Will
Edit: Chris: your post popped onto my screen as soon as I push the 'post reply' button. Looks like it's official!
Have a safe trip and stay safe, we hope the missing member is fit and well when arrive.


Nev
 

Willum

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Have a safe trip and stay safe, we hope the missing member is fit and well when arrive.


Nev
You and me both, old friend! :sweating: and thanks for the good wishes.
A friend actually stayed on the site until about a month ago when family circumstances forced him to head back to the UK. He kept an eye on it - not that it was in much danger - and sent us a couple of photosMarooned 2.jpg
I'm hoping the only casualty might be the engine battery. It was threatened with a new one having embarrassed us outbound but under normal circumstances the solar looks after it OK.
Hope all's well your end. Stay safe
Will
 

Georgelon

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Хочу поделиться с вами лавхаком, как не платить за мобильную связь и это законно!)
Наткнулся в ВК на тему https://vk.com/topic-117028282_41007924 про нового мобильного оператора Danycom Mobile. У них есть бесплатный тариф, в который включено 10 ГБ и 30 минут на всех операторов в месяц. И это навсегда! 1 сим в одни руки. Можно перейти со своим номером.

Самый крутой тариф 249 руб в месяц 10 ГБ и 350 минут! Работает везде, где есть Мегафон или Теле2, т.к. их оборудование использует. Я пока взял бесплатную симку, протестировал и теперь хочу перейти своим номером на платный тариф. 1 ГБ все же мало, но будет резервной симкой, если что.

 

Georgelon

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Хочу поделиться с вами лавхаком, как не платить за мобильную связь и это законно!)
Наткнулся в ВК на тему https://vk.com/topic-117028282_41007924 про нового мобильного оператора Danycom Mobile. У них есть бесплатный тариф, в который включено 10 ГБ и 30 минут на всех операторов в месяц. И это навсегда! 1 сим в одни руки. Можно перейти со своим номером.

Самый крутой тариф 249 руб в месяц 10 ГБ и 350 минут! Работает везде, где есть Мегафон или Теле2, т.к. их оборудование использует. Я пока взял бесплатную симку, протестировал и теперь хочу перейти своим номером на платный тариф. 1 ГБ все же мало, но будет резервной симкой, если что.

 

Willum

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Well it's still a bl**dy shambles but even Boris has eased the flow of populist claptrap, quarantine/isolation/distancing restrictions are manageable, so we've formulated our cunning plan to rescue the camper.
Outbound to Malaga, Jet2 from East Midlands, 16th July, armed with various bits of paperwork for the Spanish and French authorities - and sunscreen - and masks - and gloves.
Even getting that flight was a rollercoaster. We booked again for the 15th, then a day later Jet2 cancelled the flight but said we could rebook with no booking fees. How reasonable it seemed - until we realised that every other flight was at least £38 more. I am, though, bound to say that in their defence they have still come out miles and miles better than a lot of the other carriers. Praying we get there before there are massive infection spikes resulting from the idiots shoulder-to-shoulder on the beach, or another mass protest gathering.
Planning to stay for a couple of weeks on the site, on the same pitch, to make absolutely sure we're fit to travel, then bimble up through Spain and France to one of the (as yet to be decided) Channel ports. Luckily we should be going the opposite way to most of the traffic. Somehow I don't see a lot of our soon to be ex-EU neighbours headed north to this green and pleasant land.
Spain's not quite as hot as France next week or so but, just for once, I'm going to be pleased we've lugged around a functioning aircon strapped to the roof. Pat doesn't like aircon but I can see her changing her mind, even if only temporarily.
Looking on the bright side, we've managed to convert a bank balance into pavoirs, bricks, concrete and labour and now have the beginnings of a driveway, which will hopefully continue to grow whilst we are away.
Will
 

Willum

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Made it!
Our third attempt at a flight gave us a quite well organised Jet2 trip on a jam-packed 737, with everyone made to wear a mask the whole time, except for eating and drinking, loos regularly cleaned. There were several announcements over the PA in flight but still a few who had to be told to put the mask back on. There were a quite a lot of 20/30-something holidaymakers in the airport with absolutely no regard for social distancing but a few security workers telling them to move apart and wear a mask, which they did - until the guy was out of sight:mad:
Malaga airport was quite busy, lots of Queues for immigration and health checks, the punters making a mockery of the social distancing advice. Just push and crowd to get through as soon as you can. Airport security were struggling to herd the idiots into order. There were also the guaranteed few who'd ignored all the messages from the airline to make absolutely sure you had the Spanish Health Ministry QR code available ready for the temperature and visible health check. Some without one were obviously pretending to fill in the forms they were given, then trying to bluff back through. Security sent them straight to the back again. There's always the percentage who think the rules don't apply to them. If I were being politically incorrect I'd use the word Chavs but I try not to be :rolleyes: so I'll just observe we seem to have bred a couple of generations of self centred, ill educated, ill mannered, inconsiderate young adults.
Motorhome's sporting lots of spiders and pigeon poo but absolutely fine. Bless the old girl, everything worked from the get-go, including the engine that started first touch of the key.
Left home at 3am, temp 6 degrees. Arrived on the campsite 1330, temp 33 degrees - inside and outside.
I've never been so pleased to have aircon, even if it is noisy.
The fridge is the only thing struggling. It was new and more or less unused when we bought the motorhome and I've discovered the donkeys who fitted it have not properly connected the cooling assist fan and worse still, not sealed the cabinet properly. We have a very hot wardrobe but the CO monitor is functional and isn't objecting, so keeping an eye on things......
The Spanish are being very careful, everyone in a public space with a mask, hand sanitiser and gloves available for all in the supermarkets, shelves fully stocked, very good observation of social distancing by almost everyone. Can't say the same for the tourists, who wander about the street and seafront totally bare faced.
Going to head north in the next couple of days. France is threatening to shut the border again because of a huge outbreak around Barcelona.:sweating:
Fingers crossed again.
Will
ps tomorrow is going to be the weirdest birthday I've ever had...........................:rofl:
 

BigMomma

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In Spain now you have to carry a mask at all times, even if in a situation where you do not need to wear it, no mask in your possession then if stopped an immediate 150 Euro fine, that’s the way to do it :thumb:
 
In Spain now you have to carry a mask at all times, even if in a situation where you do not need to wear it, no mask in your possession then if stopped an immediate 150 Euro fine, that’s the way to do it :thumb:
Not only carry it, it MUST be worn, it makes for discomfort, but what's a bit of discomfort
 

Willum

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In Spain now you have to carry a mask at all times, even if in a situation where you do not need to wear it, no mask in your possession then if stopped an immediate 150 Euro fine, that’s the way to do it :thumb:
Absolutely! I guess the ones I saw were hiding them in their pockets - or very rich..... I've never known the Spanish police to shy away from enforcing the law, so there will doubtless be a few rude awakenings.
Just before we left the UK the local hospital (East of Lincolnshire) had a family arrive in A&E - I'm given to believe it was a minor injury. When asked for a home address, it was given as Leicester! :rolleyes:
They were told to go home.
Our local landlady, bless her, is trying very hard to get things going again, save the business, etc and has opened the pub and put all the Government recommendations in place. Everyone's being co-operative, enjoying the freedom and socialising until a tourist family arrive for a drink. Woman in charge of the family refuses to give any contact details, says she doesn't see why she should, then states that she's not going to self-isolate, even if she does contract COVID-19.
She and her family were told to go away as well.
Apart from us and a now-departed Wales-based couple, there have only been 2 British visitors since we got back here. The only time I saw them with a mask was when the campsite office had obviously sent them back to get some from their motorhome as they tried to go out the (closely monitored) gate. I suspect the owners might just get in hot water if they didn't bother to warn them.
Dutch/French/German/Italian/Spanish/Swedish here seem to comply without question. We had a token Venezuelan family for a few days and they understood.
(it's not as busy as that list would imply. There's one of each, except for 3 Spanish and that's for a site with about 100 pitches/statics)
Will
 

BigMomma

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Not only carry it, it MUST be worn, it makes for discomfort, but what's a bit of discomfort
Yes you are correct, only a few exemptions, in a car with members of same family, eating or drinking but at all other times mask has to be worn when outside :thumb: There is a protest in London today, thousands protesting about having to wear masks, what is wrong with these people:mad:
 
Yes you are correct, only a few exemptions, in a car with members of same family, eating or drinking but at all other times mask has to be worn when outside :thumb: There is a protest in London today, thousands protesting about having to wear masks, what is wrong with these people:mad:
Someone I know in UK calls them numpties, quite polite turn of phrase methinks
 

Willum

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Someone I know in UK calls them numpties, quite polite turn of phrase methinks
A lot more polite than the ones that come to the front of my mind..................
It's just such a pity that the result of their stupidity and selfishness is not really going to impact them as much as it should. They will most probably survive it in a far greater proportion than the other, more vulnerable people they help spread the infection on to.
But hey! What's the surprise when the example set is Cummings and Boris's father whizzing off on holiday (or going for an eye test :rolleyes: ) at the height of the pandemic - without any visible consequence. Guess it's what you get when you're daft enough to swallow the tripe they peddle and believe the lies and go down the populist government route. I suppose it could be worse (just). We could have Trump............
 

Nomadic

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Happy birthday Will, pleased the van is in good order, even if the fridge is contributing to the heat retention inside. At least it can be sorted when you get home. Safe travels.
 

Willum

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Happy birthday Will, pleased the van is in good order, even if the fridge is contributing to the heat retention inside. At least it can be sorted when you get home. Safe travels.
From one (now officially) Old Phart to another: Than:thumb:ks. A surfeit of Paella and a nice bottle of red wine for a birthday dinner will do me fine, despite the 30 degree heat and facemasks! I'm quite looking forward to it after the last few months of confinement - and in a relatively safe environment, too.
Setting off northward on Wednesday, so bought a couple of USB-powered fans for the dash to see if I can prevent driver melt-down. A whole €1.98 each in the local Asia supermarket (physical representation of Ali Express/Banggood) and they actually work well. If they only last the journey home, I'll consider it money well spent.
Lets be realistic. I could be having so much more fun back home. There's raves to go to and a protest march against facemasks to attend................. I'm soooooooooooooo going to miss that opportunity :rolleyes:
Take care, all.
Will
 

Willum

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La Belle France! Made it as far as Peyeurhorade in the south, just east of Biarritz. The hottest, stickiest, hardest three days driving I've done for quite a few years. No aircon and a big windscreen. Temperatures mid to high 30s and bad enough to make me put wet towels on the dash coaming, round my shoulders and wet cloths over my forearm to stop the sunburn. Thank heaven for €2 USB fans. Even hot moving air is better than no moving air. The stuff coming from outside through the vents felt hot enough to toast bread!
We have a TyrePal monitor and watching the pressures climb close to 90PSI and the temperatures up to 45C was a little alarming. Slowing from 90 to 80 kliks made little if any difference. Probably less airflow.
Perhaps sometimes it's better not knowing but I guess the alarm sounding for overpressure/temperature/sudden pressure loss was better to have than a full blowout.
Eventually got a night's sleep (sub-25C) at a plain but quiet little aire north east of Burgos at Briviesca - as long as you don't have too much overhang on the back axle and don't fret too much about narrowing streets, it's recommended for a night's stop and breather ................
Crossing the border at Irun was the quietest I've ever seen in terms of Border Patrol/Customs presence!
Following all the Press hype about infection spikes/lockdowns around Barcelona and France shutting the border with Spain again (yeah, I know, I shouldn't listen to it, serves me right) we were all prepared with paperwork/Embassay letter/whatever we could think of, expecting at least a forehead temperature check, or a poke in the throat and nose - but nada/nix/zilch/squat.
Up 'til then, all the Spanish tolls had staff/masks/cheery words but the first - and last, for us - in France was contactless credit card operated - and broken (awaiting verification, press 'HELP') but then just opened. Maybe someone looked at a camera, saw Pat's scowl and pressed the button to lift the barrier :)
Once into France and stopped for the night, the most noticeable thing is that almost no one is wearing a mask. We've gone from one extreme to another.
Slow, steady run through the aires, up to Dieppe from here. In true French style, DFDS took our booking for an overnight crossing two weeks ago. Two days ago they emailed to say we can't have a cabin for the night, 'cos they can't guarantee sanitary standards when cleaning them.
A grumpy email got us on the last day crossing at no extra charge and, hopefully, a refund for the cabin.
Not so good is arriving in Newhaven at 9pm and a 280 mile drive. Might just hide in the 'Departures Area' for a snooze....................
And now on a more entertaining note and the bit I love from recent news.
Not only have the Government been threatened with Court Prodcedings for breaches of The Data Protection Act, The Office of The Information Commissioner is already investigating the Test and Trace programme after the Sunday Times reported last week that some contact tracers had posted private patient data to WhatsApp and Facebook groups
What a surprise that is!! How could it possibly happen with a Government funded initiative?? :rolleyes::rolleyes:
It's still a bl**dy shambles!
Will
 
La Belle France! Made it as far as Peyeurhorade in the south, just east of Biarritz. The hottest, stickiest, hardest three days driving I've done for quite a few years. No aircon and a big windscreen. Temperatures mid to high 30s and bad enough to make me put wet towels on the dash coaming, round my shoulders and wet cloths over my forearm to stop the sunburn. Thank heaven for €2 USB fans. Even hot moving air is better than no moving air. The stuff coming from outside through the vents felt hot enough to toast bread!
We have a TyrePal monitor and watching the pressures climb close to 90PSI and the temperatures up to 45C was a little alarming. Slowing from 90 to 80 kliks made little if any difference. Probably less airflow.
Perhaps sometimes it's better not knowing but I guess the alarm sounding for overpressure/temperature/sudden pressure loss was better to have than a full blowout.
Eventually got a night's sleep (sub-25C) at a plain but quiet little aire north east of Burgos at Briviesca - as long as you don't have too much overhang on the back axle and don't fret too much about narrowing streets, it's recommended for a night's stop and breather ................
Crossing the border at Irun was the quietest I've ever seen in terms of Border Patrol/Customs presence!
Following all the Press hype about infection spikes/lockdowns around Barcelona and France shutting the border with Spain again (yeah, I know, I shouldn't listen to it, serves me right) we were all prepared with paperwork/Embassay letter/whatever we could think of, expecting at least a forehead temperature check, or a poke in the throat and nose - but nada/nix/zilch/squat.
Up 'til then, all the Spanish tolls had staff/masks/cheery words but the first - and last, for us - in France was contactless credit card operated - and broken (awaiting verification, press 'HELP') but then just opened. Maybe someone looked at a camera, saw Pat's scowl and pressed the button to lift the barrier :)
Once into France and stopped for the night, the most noticeable thing is that almost no one is wearing a mask. We've gone from one extreme to another.
Slow, steady run through the aires, up to Dieppe from here. In true French style, DFDS took our booking for an overnight crossing two weeks ago. Two days ago they emailed to say we can't have a cabin for the night, 'cos they can't guarantee sanitary standards when cleaning them.
A grumpy email got us on the last day crossing at no extra charge and, hopefully, a refund for the cabin.
Not so good is arriving in Newhaven at 9pm and a 280 mile drive. Might just hide in the 'Departures Area' for a snooze....................
And now on a more entertaining note and the bit I love from recent news.
Not only have the Government been threatened with Court Prodcedings for breaches of The Data Protection Act, The Office of The Information Commissioner is already investigating the Test and Trace programme after the Sunday Times reported last week that some contact tracers had posted private patient data to WhatsApp and Facebook groups
What a surprise that is!! How could it possibly happen with a Government funded initiative?? :rolleyes::rolleyes:
It's still a bl**dy shambles!
Will
Sounds very much like our journey but we're still in the midi Pyrenees region , good luck with your onward journey
 

Willum

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Sounds very much like our journey but we're still in the midi Pyrenees region , good luck with your onward journey
I've got to ask:
Are most things operating as normal up there? Any restrictions to note?
You've probably seen that it appears the Mayenne region has problems and facing a possible lockdown again - and we gleaned that from the UK FO Travel Advice website, so believable.
Without significant detours, it's en-route for us but should be easy enough to pass through and hide in Normandy for another day.
Another gem from yesterday and our lunch stop:
Just over the border into France, we rolled into the camper slots of an Aire on the Peage. Poor parking layout (the allocated slots made access for the trucks difficult) but a nice new coin-in-the-slot service station for Camping Cars.
In the next slot to us was a French camper with four adults. I promise I wasn't being a curtain twitcher, their volume and vivacity meant they just couldn't be ignored. Out came all the tables and chairs, the baguettes, meat, cheese, etc, etc - and large glasses of Pastis and red wine. The Pastis in particular was being enjoyed by the men, amid increasing joy and hilarity. A very cheery sight of folk enjoying a break outdoors.
The only disconcerting bit was the fact that having finished their repast and packed everything away they didn't indulge in the usual snooze after a meal, they drove away, Pastis-fuelled and happy - one of the men at the wheel. :eek::eek:
We made sure they had a good head start.......................
Will
 

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