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Willum

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................ now with the French Tourist Visa giving option for some extended touring in EU will come back to UK in Autumn and apply for that :thumb:
I've been looking into that one as well.
I may have not understood it correctly but so far I don't see any way round proving I have funds available to the tune of €120 per day (per person) if we are touring in the motorhome - that's quite a lot of money to have stashed away. If we did our old routine of 6 months, that would be roughly €43K.
Then there's the question of how much of it you must spend in France. Much as we love touring round the aires ....................

ps Hi Eric. Hope all's well.
 

chrisjones18

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Bigmomma is this what you are doing....
Also the Spanish eu minister has asked Brussels to scrap the 90 in 180 day allowance for those outside the zone...
2630
 

BigMomma

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The NLV is our favoured option but the only sticking point, for us at least, is the no straight exchange of Driving Licences. The British and Spanish Governments have been in negotiations for months on bringing this back in but the Agreement has not as yet been signed off. We could of course take the Spanish Theory Test, take driving lessons and then the Practical Driving Test but you cannot do this until you have completed the NLV process and if you fail the test…………:wasntme: So our other option, until this Agreement is, or is not, ratified would be to apply for the French six month Tourist Visa, for Motorhomers there is a way of getting around the financial requirements but it involves a lot of administration to explain your circumstances, however, there are a lot who have successfully obtained the French Visa. Unfortunately we have not done anything on this as we had to return to UK earlier than scheduled as my mother has been seriously ill, by the time we returned she had been given less than a week to live but she has survived. She spent 5 weeks in hospital and is now in a Nursing Home, we have been very busy getting all of this sorted and to be honest it has been quite an elongated and stressful experience. We now have 9 weeks left here in the UK before we return to Spain again so hopefully the driving licence issue will be sorted in that time so we can start the NLV process when we return again in April.
 

chrisjones18

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I think the sticking point with licences is the uk government...
Now it looks like they ( swansea) are going on strike.
Our daughter is in the same predicament as you as she needs a spanish licence..hers is also held up. With the added bonus of being told Madrid have lost it.
It's hard with family....dad was told( us really) he would not make his birthday this year ( june 11th)... heart rate been 31 bpm since may and still is 31 nearly 6 months later...
Tory government for us has made a hash of everything...
Do we go to spain with family there or France because it's cheaper for Visa's....bloody mess ... or stay in uk ( 3rd option)
 

BigMomma

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I do not believe that the actual negotiations have got anything to do with DVLA. The British Consulate said that they had reached an agreement and that there were some ‘Annexes’ To it that needed to be checked prior to it being ratified (which I suspect was untrue) as this was way back in July. Then they said the Spanish Government had to ratify it and since then absolutely nothing :lipssealed: I believe that the Spanish are wanting something else, not associated with driving licences, perhaps to do with Gibraltar and the British Government are not prepared to compromise. Once you apply for a Spanish Licence, which is via the Spanish DGT they issue a receipt so that you can continue to drive until ‘they’ produce the Spanish Licence, all they do is notify DVLA on your behalf that the UK Licence is no longer valid and has been exchanged for a Spanish one, unless that procedure has changed:worried: We are basically all set up already in Spain, just need to get the NLV and then apply for the Residence Permit, job done, but their are some aspects of life in Spain where we would need a car as local transportation is limited where we are if we need to get to hospital. We have considered a move to Portugal or France but they too have different requirements that make permanent residency a little more complicated, whilst other aspects are beneficial, so it is a bit of a minefield really.Living back in the UK on a permanent basis would be our least favourable option, the Country is rapidly becoming worse and worse in every aspect, Financially and Practically, the NHS is not just on it’s knees, it is close to being delivered the last ‘Rites’ itself, Utilities and Public Services are getting worse, Transportation, Law & Order. Why is it the only G7 member country that is in decline, everyone else suffered Covid and Food shortages not just the UK, Oh yes, they don’t have to suffer the ongoing chaos that has been caused by Brexshit, the word that the Conservative Government never mention when they discuss the Economic Crisis, everything is caused by Covid and the war in Ukraine in their eyes. So is Spain a picture of tranquility and harmony, no, it has it’s own issues but nowhere near as bad as the UK and it is a darn sight warmer for the majority of the year:thumb:
 

BigMomma

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I had written my earlier post before reading the morning’s headlines, finally, someone in the current Government has said publicly what the majority of the British public already knew, perhaps they finally realise that the only people they were telling lies to were themselves :giggle:
 

chrisjones18

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BigMomma

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Yes, saw the announcement on the British Embassy (Spain) Website. Just needs to go through the Ministerial Approval so a few weeks to go yet before it becomes a proper formal International Agreement between UK/Spain. However, for us, that now means that when we return from Spain in April we can start the application process for our Spanish Residency which can take between 4-12 weeks. However, for anyone thinking of applying for the new ‘Nomad Visa’, all I would say is read the conditions in respect of the annual income requirements for the 5 year period ?
 
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Willum

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Hmmm! Don't no quite what happened there but a notification popped up in my email saying 'Jim has replied to a thread ......' - bit there's nothing there.

Anyway, how's everyone doing on the 90 day avoidance plans?

I got this a few days ago:


.......... and I know it's only their version of events but there are references to proving where you are going to live, none saying it can be a 'mobile' base, a maximum of 6 months outside Spain, employment status, etc, etc. Unless someone knows something I don't, it looks to be a non-starter for a retiree, even with sufficient income to cover. :(
 

chrisjones18

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France are doing a 6 month visa, around £220 (renewable annually) from my poor memory ...you apply in uk at french consulate...
I can find the details if anyone wants them but apparently its straight forward.
 

Willum

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France are doing a 6 month visa, around £220 (renewable annually) from my poor memory ...you apply in uk at french consulate...
I can find the details if anyone wants them but apparently its straight forward.
Yes please, Chris. Anything you've got will be much appreciated as a means of escaping the 90 day rule. :thumb:

Will
 

chrisjones18

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Yes please, Chris. Anything you've got will be much appreciated as a means of escaping the 90 day rule. :thumb:

Hi will this is from a reputable couple on a chat room on Facebook
Hi everyone I posted last year on the process of getting a French 6 month visa so I thought I'd do a quick post explaining our 'real life' experience of the long stay(temporary) visa (VLS-T) that allows you 6 months travel in France/EU.

I understand there are different views on FB and there is a lot of advice on the '180 days in France' page and I don't want to disagree or challenge any of it, I'm just reporting on our actual real time experience, so please I don't need a link to any sites etc etc, I understand and have used the visa

We (@wanderwebb) were granted a 6 month visa last year from April to Oct. We arrived in France in Feb, travelled to Spain and used some of our 90 day allowance, stayed in France and Spain for our 6 month visa and then stayed for a further 2 months after our visa until December. We did this 10 month tour without leaving the EU and without any stamps on our visa. I know that some say you have to leave the EU before and after your visa, as it could cause issues when leaving and also if you reapply for another visa the year after, but we didn't have any issues at all, the border control at Santander just stamped us out and we have also just been successful and have been granted new visas for this year without any issues at all, from interview to passport return in 7 days

We plan to do the exact same again this year so happy travels everyone
 

Willum

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Thanks for that, Chris.

Somehow that one had passed me by. I'll blame Brexit and Covid.

I'm still a bit puzzled by how you managed 10 months on a 6 month visa. Were you actually able to add your 90 day Schengen allowance onto the French VLS-T - in other words, have the VLS-T treated as a totally separate 'allowance' of time in the EU?

Will
 
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chrisjones18

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I guess it goes, 1 month Spain , then 6 months france then 3 months eu.
Though theres not a actual/physical border until you leave the eu so the VLS-T looks to be separate.
 

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