proof of fulltiming

andrew

New Member
#1
hi all

i'm new to this but needed some real advice as my ex partner has been told by the council that she needs to repay all the benefits she has received unless they can prove i have not been living there (I've been using that as an address and im still on the electrol. how can i prove that i've not been living there?
 

vwalan

Well-Known Member
#2
ferry tickets etc . but its hard . you should have come off the electrol role .
you only need to go on if you want to vote and that can be done without being an address
i assume its council tax problems .
 

Steve Freeman

Well-Known Member
#3
It may be about receipt of other benefits, rather than payment of council tax - hard to know without more details, but that's private information which really shouldn't be discussed on here....

If the ex has received any additional benefits on the basis she has been part of a couple, and in reality she was not, that could be seen as benefit fraud. If on the other hand this is about council tax reductions (as Alan suspects), for single person occupancy then if you genuinely haven't lived there, she'd be OK but you need to get legal advice. Do they still have Citizen's Advice places ? It is possible that if you have had mail delivered there, your driving licence/insurance is registered there or if there is any evidence of a utility bill with your name on it, it would be hard to prove you were not resident and the council may well have a case. If you have anything like bills, or bank statements that shows you have been living elsewhere, you may be able to show you live somewhere else.

I'm not sure that ferry tickets prove anything other than you bought ferry tickets - as Alan says it's hard - get legal advice.
 

andrew

New Member
#4
Thanks for the advice guys.
I'm not really overly sure what benefits my ex is receiving or what it is they're querying but she was pretty exacerbated over the phone so didn't really tell me much other then they presumed I was still living there. She drew up a legal document with her solicitor which stated that I do not live there (due to mortgage etc). I will look up citizens advice thank you.
The other tricky thing is I do have my insurance registered to that address (not too many that accept you as a fulltimer its like they wanna rinse you for all the taxes the can and don't like anyone saving money by living outside of societies' norms
Any other fulltimers wanna give me some inspiration
 

John and Joan

Well-Known Member
#5
Did you get full timing insurance or were you trying to be economical with the truth and not declare it, so getting cheaper insurance as a result.

We are on the electoral roll associated with out last UK address, but registered as of no fixed address moving from location to location in the UK or Europe (See my post about this). We have a contact address for everything else.

We have found no problems living an alternative lifestyle for the last 6 years, but we did inform everyone that we needed to of our situation. We even have a TV licence.
 
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andrew

New Member
#6
how can i look up your previous thread john?? wasn't sure how to register as a no fixed abode. i am only a student and needed to make a hastey decision regarding living in the van so done it on the cheap yeh :? my bad
 

Steve Freeman

Well-Known Member
#7
"Benefit" from a council could be housing benefit - can't think what else is paid locally (bar a single-person discount on council tax, but that's just a discount)... Anyway, ask an expert like you were thinking!

Be aware that if you or your ex, or maybe the council even, show that you are not really resident, your insurance may be null and void. For a claim, the insurers will check your details are true by various means - what if they just phone your ex? They wouldn't even say who they were, just record the conversation. You can get full-timer insurance - Comfort rings a bell for one, at least - others on here have discussed it length (I don't know as I'm part-timer). It may cost a bit more to be full-time, but they work these things out based on risk statistics, and maybe people with kosher home addresses are a known to be a slightly lower risk on average - there are no 'individuals' for the purposes of insuring a MH, there is only "data".
 

andrew

New Member
#9
cheers folks.

Def seems like there are no quick options to just 'fly the nest' as the idea of being a nomad suggests. just looking up po boxes and turns out you have to have a permanent address to open one anyway :/ who knew that having an address was so essential......makes you resent being so controlled by the government right?? always gotta know where people are :(
 

Steve Freeman

Well-Known Member
#10
In fact, keeping that data may help prove what "andrew" actually needed, if he really hasn't been at teh house for a a while!

But in reality, your locations via Google may help advertisers, GCHQ and the FBI, but it isn't going to impress someone in a council office trying to claw back some benefits! It can all be faked with VPNs anyway.

Nevertheless a fair tip for anyone wanting to pretend they are "off-the-grid". But then you'd have to take the battery and SIM out of the phone, too, I guess....
 

Steve Freeman

Well-Known Member
#11
who knew that having an address was so essential......makes you resent being so controlled by the government right?? always gotta know where people are :(
'Twas ever thus, and it is what it is. Like making off with our cash off and hiding it off-shore, because "one went to Eton, dontcha-know" - the majority of the UK just love it and keep voting for it - but you just have to live through it, and work around it! :)
 

vwalan

Well-Known Member
#12
cheers folks.

Def seems like there are no quick options to just 'fly the nest' as the idea of being a nomad suggests. just looking up po boxes and turns out you have to have a permanent address to open one anyway :/ who knew that having an address was so essential......makes you resent being so controlled by the government right?? always gotta know where people are :(
po boxes arent accepted by many organizations .
its all not new been like it years . showman register at yards etc . gypsies have similar places . controlled by the gypsie council.
have a search on here about driving licences registering a vehicle . etc . silly part is there is no address required for a passport.
 

Steve Freeman

Well-Known Member
#13
" silly part is there is no address required for a passport."

Umm, when I got a new passport it came in the post. Does that not imply it was sent to an address of some sort?

But think you meant it required proof of identity not proof of living at the address!
 

andrew

New Member
#14
thanks again steve and vwalan. Is def worth showing where ive been spending my time, its no wonder people get paranoid about being followed (genuinely are lol). Think i ought to try and get in with this gypsy crowd....is there seriously a 'gypsy council' lol??? what do u mean register at a yard?
Leaving the country sounds like a good shout, or is it just as bad elsewhere?
gotta envy the explorers of bygone years where they just disappeared
 

vwalan

Well-Known Member
#15
try a google for gypsie council or showmans guild you might get a bit of info there.
 

vwalan

Well-Known Member
#16
fairgrounds and alot of travelling showman register at a yard . the office there control the mail etc . also many have a space in the yard to do repairs to vehicles and equipment .
you could try having a chat to some local to you.
i,m lucky i have gypsey families live just up the road from me . i went to school with several of them . my father knew there families when he was a kid . my grandad employed them when he was head gardener on an estate near edwinstow. he employed cornish gypsies as my family were originally cornish . only went up country to help dig the first deep coal mines they were tin miners really.
i can trust them with my life.
 

hpold

Well-Known Member
#17
You can use this as an address .
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  • scan received mail and forward as part of an e-mail (mail2email service)
  • acting as a forwardingagent for purchases (e.g. from eBay/Amazon)
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Our service can be used by anyone who has short or long term mail forwarding requirements due to work or leisure activities and who would find it easier to have a permanent UK address for their mail to be delivered and then forwarded as required. You may wish to collect mail at the local Post Office in the UK using the Poste Restante service.
We will provide a free UK street address for your mail to be sent to for forwarding or scanning. Our fees are reasonable, when considered against other mail forwarding providers in the market, and you are assured of a prompt and professional response to any request of us.

If you have any particular requirements, we can normally respond quickly by e-mail (info@boatmail.co.uk) or by other channels shown on our contacts page which will allow us to advise of the mail forwarding service we can offer.
 

Steve Freeman

Well-Known Member
#18
Leaving the country sounds like a good shout, or is it just as bad elsewhere?
Britain is unusually keen on privacy invasion and too much bad bureaucracy, and has a sense of righteousness quite similar to the USA (I have lived there, I'm not just throwing rocks), although it is not as bad.

In general it is bad everywhere, or at least differently annoying, and at times in other places in my lifetime many EU places have been terrible compared with the UK - Spain, Portugal, Greece are still in the shadow of dictators/military governments/arrests in the night etc., not mention Eastern Europe and the former East Germany....

The best reason to leave the UK is simply the winter weather, and the second best is the ridiculous overcrowding and cramped-ness of most of it (well, England really). Full of morbidly obese zombies covered with woad, drunk and ignorant, but feeling entitled to something. No wonder the ruling classes get away with it so easily in the UK!

Having said all that, it is still pretty damned civilized place, to be honest...
 

andrew

New Member
#19
You can use this as an address .
Welcome toboatmail.co.uk
Our services include:
  • receiving and holding your mail securely until it is required to be forwarded at no charge (a free UK street address will be supplied)
  • sending it to an address of your choice in the UK or are anywhere in the world
  • Sending mail to you as we receive it, weekly, monthly or at any time you request
  • scan received mail and forward as part of an e-mail (mail2email service)
  • acting as a forwardingagent for purchases (e.g. from eBay/Amazon)
  • receiving an e-mail, printing and posting on your behalf (email2mail service)
Unlike other providers, we make no charge for set up of your account, storage, packing, or notification when items are sent and an account statement is provided every time there is an activity on the account. We also have a low cost ‘Pay as you Go’ service, for lower volume users.
boatmail.co.ukaims to be the first choice supplier of specialist mail forwardingservices providing a secure receiving address in the UK for personal customers mail. We also provide our specialist services to caravan and motorhome users, those working away from home, ocean going yachtsmen and those who have retired and living in another part of the world. Our principles are to provide an excellent service at an easy to understand and reasonable price without compromising on quality.
Our service can be used by anyone who has short or long term mail forwarding requirements due to work or leisure activities and who would find it easier to have a permanent UK address for their mail to be delivered and then forwarded as required. You may wish to collect mail at the local Post Office in the UK using the Poste Restante service.
We will provide a free UK street address for your mail to be sent to for forwarding or scanning. Our fees are reasonable, when considered against other mail forwarding providers in the market, and you are assured of a prompt and professional response to any request of us.

If you have any particular requirements, we can normally respond quickly by e-mail (info@boatmail.co.uk) or by other channels shown on our contacts page which will allow us to advise of the mail forwarding service we can offer.

cheers ill check it out..... not that i intend on getting an address to forward to for the forseeable future
 

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