It will depend how they manage it. If they try to make too much money off it, people will still wild camp instead. In France, the most I will usually pay for a 24hr aire with water and black/gray waste is €5, and would regard that as an expensive night. Usually I find a free one, or one that charges only for the services, but not the parking.
But good for them for having a go. I wonder if anyone has suggest to them getting listed in Vicarious or some such.
Very interesting that the UK is beginning to recognise our little(?) community!
But I took the following sentence from the article.
"Behaviour will be monitored while charges for overnight stays are yet to be decided. A three-night limit will be imposed to protect local hoteliers."
1 , "Behaviour will be monitored"
What do they expect us to do? Hold a 72 hour rave? Start selling magic mushrooms to the local schoolkids? Plant satchel bombs in local latrines? will there be Orwellian cameras scrutinising us every minute of the day? 1984 was sooo last decade.... Millenium...:cautious: well..it was ages ago!
"Councillor Albert Pounder, Fylde Council cabinet member for Customer and Operational Services, said: “Motorhomers are good, responsible citizens and tend to be prosperous."
So? why does our behaviour need monitoring? Are we LycanMotorhomers? Peter Parker by day, but one whiff of a full moon and it's all teeth. claws and pineapple upsidedown cake?
2, "Charges for overnight stays are yet to be decided"
How much can we get away with for making people pay for living in a car park for 3 days? Like rounding up the people and putting them in a corral. Why would charges change anyway? Park for 2 hours, 4 hours, 8 hours, overnight! Why the need for change? Is there now a casino on site? +£3.00, a Jacuzzi? +£3.00, A Sauna? +£5.00, a drive in cinema? +£2.00(plus £10 for popcorn and fizzy slush puppy)
3 , "A three-night limit will be imposed to protect local hoteliers."
In what way would this affect local hoteliers? I have my own bed, breakfast and entertainment systems onboard! I would no more consider booking into a hotel than I would subscribe to the activities in point 1! Or, are they assuming that because we have 'Sleeping quarters' on board, we will be renting out 'sleepspace' to anyone who can't be bothered to find a hotel? Spot the neon flickerings from afar..bed here! bed here! last one..roll up! free duvet!
Call me paranoid, but I smell the scent of governments attempting to control and make a buck out of us!
On the first point, there are sometimes reports of setting up camp or emptying waste in car parks...
If the authorities could just turn their heads round and see that MHs in car parks means a chance for local traders to trade. Overprice the car park and no one benefits - not traders, not council, not MHers.
I think that the principle of it is good. We often bemoan that local councils do not provide facilities for Motorhomers to park up overnight much like 'Aires' in France and here we have someone trying to introduce something we have been asking for so I say 'Good on ya' We must appreciate that this is a 'New' idea being launched in this particular place and so facilities are limited to.........well nothing really except a place to overnight but let's give it a chance and more importantly let's 'Use it'. If Motorhomers show that there is a requirement and that it will be used then more facilities will/may be provided. If successful we can then use this as a good example and try to persuade other councils to adopt the same attititude. This guy realises the potential benefit to the local community and economy, at last Let's not be 'Pessimists' here, it is a very small move but in the right direction, the ball is somewhat in our court I think, "Use it or Lose it".
Well lets just hope that they dont end up with the so called new age traveller brigade that we have had down here this last summer.They got onto a field and i initially stated to not jump to the wrong conclussions,that was until a court order was submitted and we then as taxpayers had to foot the bill for cleaning up the local underpass that had been used as a toilet,graffiti was sprayed all over the place drinks were swipped in the local pub and generally crime in general.It is nice to see a council giving us a chance but i fear we could again be blighted by the sort i have described as above.I have to agree with some of robs posts on another thread,in what good have these people ever done.
Would it not be a positive direction (and welcome one) to find a group of travellers trying to give something to the community at large to promote themselves in a better light,as say, picking up litter of the beaches.
I am not anti-gypsy or traveller but do get fed up with hearing all the negatives and hearing of no positives.
I do feel that these facilities need to not only work for us and their communities but also to try disuade those that would use it to everyones detriment.
I understand some of what you say but the problem is, it's a bit like the media, positive news doesn't gain much interest which it is why it is always doom and gloom on the News or in the Newspapers. How many successfully completed Air Flights do you read about ? How often do you hear of Air Crashes ? How many successful Celebrity marriages do you read about ? How many Celebrities found cheating or splitting up or Divorcing do you read about ? So, the good news is the villages/towns that are not inundated with 'Rogue Travellers' how many of them do you read about ? Other countries have their share of the 'rogue' element but this does not stop the provision of facilities. We can always take a pessimistic view and end up kicking ourselves up the 'Ass', so all I am saying is that there is a facility being offered, let's use it and show the need exists and that communities who cater for the 'legitimate traveller' can benefit and prosper. If we do not use the facility then the 'Rogue Travellers' will and we end up providing more ammunition for the anti-motorhoming brigade.
Agreed, when this sort of facility is provided, we should use it and not abuse it... shop locally, be polite, don't overstay the time limit, don't dispose of waste where you shouldn't... that should cover everyone on M365 so we can help to show MHers in a good light
I am stating the opinions of what i have personally experianced,as i have stated before when we fulltime we are not adverse to a bit of unpaid work where we would be of benefit to the coast ,country, wildlife or the enviroment in some way.I wonder why most do not have this kind of attitude,i have come accross a few examples but far too few.
I bet you will be after a bonus as well,i would imagine you have a big bonus coming your way,as it seems like your never working,always on here with zero productivity..........you could be up for a promotion matey
You may both think that I am skiving but I "know that I am" Modern technology is great ? Working from home is great ? but all this luxury means that next week I am on the road for the week and having to work for a living, something to do with writing reports and prior planning and preparation Just praying that it snows again so I can follow the advice "Don't travel unless your journey is absolutely necessary"
BONUS !! BONUS !! you misheard what people called me....it was W****R not BANKER
We don't bother with stuff like that ! Not saying we couldn't or even shouldn't, just don't at the moment. But to be honest, do we need a sticker to identify ourselves. To me the Motorhoming community is one big group of likeminded people so which forum (if any) that they belong to is not even a thought. We have tongues in our head, so a perfectly reasonable question during a routine chat may be "Are you a member of any Motorhome Forums?". Good discussion point though